Wednesday, January 5, 2011

What kind of person stays with a psychopath or Narcissist?

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So far I’ve tried to explain that just about any person can be initially fooled by a psychopath’s mask of sanity and become involved with such a disordered individual. However, while any of us can become ensnared by a psychopath during the initial, luring phase when he does his best to appear better than normal individuals, fewer people actually STAY with a psychopath or narcissist once his mask of sanity slips and they come to see his real, malicious, disordered and abusive self.

Today I’m pasting below an article by Sam Vaknin, an expert on narcissism and psychopathy, from his website and book “Malignant Self-Love”.  This article sketches the psychological profile of the kind of person who stays with a psychopath or narcissist long after the luring and honeymoon phases are gone and Dr. Jekyll has morphed into the real Mr. Hyde. If you recognize yourself in the victim profile, perhaps this New Year’s resolution could be to find the inner strength–and seek the external support–to ditch the psychopath or narcissist in your life. Don’t allow an evil individual to abuse and control you for the rest of your life. You deserve better than that.  At any rate, I hope that this information will help.

On the face of it, there is no (emotional) partner or mate, who typically “binds” with a sociopathic narcissist. They come in all shapes and sizes. The initial phases of attraction, infatuation and falling in love are pretty normal. The sociopathic narcissist puts on his best face – the other party is blinded by budding love. A natural selection process occurs only much later, as the relationship develops, the sociopath shows his true colors and the relationship is put to the test.

Living with a sociopathic narcissist can be exhilarating, is always onerous, often harrowing. Surviving a relationship with a sociopathic narcissist indicates, therefore, the parameters of the personality of the survivor. She (or, more rarely, he) is molded by the relationship into The Typical Sociopathic narcissistic Mate/Partner/Spouse.

First and foremost, the sociopathic narcissist’s partner must have a deficient grasp of her self and of reality. Otherwise, she (or he) is bound to abandon the sociopathic narcissist’s ship after the honeymoon phase is over. The cognitive distortion is likely to consist of belittling and demeaning herself – while aggrandising and adoring the sociopathic narcissist. The partner is, thus, placing himself in the position of the eternal victim: undeserving, punishable, a scapegoat. Sometimes, it is very important to the partner to appear moral, sacrificial and victimised. At other times, she is not even aware of this predicament. The sociopathic narcissist is perceived by the partner to be a person in the position to demand these sacrifices from his partner, being superior to her in many ways (intellectually, emotionally, morally, financially).

The status of professional victim sits well with the partner’s tendency to punish herself, namely: with her masochistic streak. The tormented life with the sociopathic narcissist is, as far as the partner is aware, a just punitive measure.

In this respect, the partner is the mirror image of the sociopathic narcissist. By maintaining a symbiotic relationship with him, by being totally dependent upon the source of masochistic supply (which the sociopathic narcissist most reliably constitutes and most amply provides) – the partner enhances certain traits and encourages certain behaviours, which are at the very core of narcissism.

The sociopathic narcissist is never whole without an adoring, submissive, available, self-denigrating partner. His very sense of superiority, indeed his False Self, depends on it. His sadistic Superego switches its attentions from the sociopathic narcissist (in whom it often provokes suicidal ideation) to the partner, thus finally obtaining an alternative source of sadistic satisfaction.

It is through self-denial that the partner survives. She denies her wishes, hopes, dreams, aspirations, sexual, psychological and material needs, and much else besides. She perceives her needs as threatening because they might engender the wrath of the sociopathic narcissist’s God-like supreme figure. The sociopathic narcissist is rendered in her eyes even more superior through and because of this self-denial. Self-denial undertaken to facilitate and ease the life of a “great man” is more palatable. The “greater” the man (=the sociopathic narcissist), the easier it is for the partner to ignore her own self, to dwindle, to degenerate, to turn into an appendix of the sociopathic narcissist and, finally, to become nothing but an extension, to merge with the sociopathic narcissist to the point of oblivion and of dim memories of one’s self.

The two collaborate in this macabre dance. The sociopathic narcissist is formed by his partner inasmuch as he forms her. Submission breeds superiority and masochism breeds sadism. The relationships are characterised by rampant emergentism: roles are allocated almost from the start and any deviation meets with an aggressive, even violent reaction.

The predominant state of the partner’s mind is utter confusion. Even the most basic relationships – with husband, children, or parents – remain bafflingly obscured by the giant shadow cast by the intensive interaction with the sociopathic narcissist. A suspension of judgement is part and parcel of a suspension of individuality, which is both a prerequisite to and the result of living with a sociopathic narcissist. The partner no longer knows what is true and right and what is wrong and forbidden.

The sociopathic narcissist recreates for the partner the sort of emotional ambience that led to his own formation in the first place: capriciousness, fickleness, arbitrariness, emotional (and physical or sexual) abandonment. The world becomes uncertain and frightening and the partner has only one thing to cling to: the sociopathic narcissist.

And cling she does. If there is anything which can safely be said about those who emotionally team up with sociopathic narcissists, it is that they are overtly and overly dependent.

The partner doesn’t know what to do – and this is only too natural in the mayhem that is the relationship with the sociopathic narcissist. But the typical partner also does not know what she wants and, to a large extent, who she is and what she wants to become.

These unanswered questions hamper the partner’s ability to gauge reality, evaluate and appraise it for what it is. Her primordial sin is that she fell in love with an image, not with a real person. It is the voiding of the image that is mourned when the relationship ends.

The break-up of a relationship with a sociopathic narcissist is, therefore, very emotionally charged. It is the culmination of a long chain of humiliations and of subjugation. It is the rebellion of the functioning and healthy parts of the partner’s personality against the tyranny of the sociopathic narcissist.

The partner is liable to have totally misread and misinterpreted the whole interaction (I hesitate to call it a relationship). This lack of proper interface with reality might be (erroneously) labelled “pathological”.

Why is it that the partner seeks to prolong her pain? What is the source and purpose of this masochistic streak? Upon the break-up of the relationship, the partner (and the sociopathic narcissist) engage in a tortuous and drawn out post mortem. But the question who really did what to whom (and even why) is irrelevant. What is relevant is to stop mourning oneself (this is what the parties are really mourning), start smiling again and love in a less subservient, hopeless, and pain-inflicting manner.

You can see the entire process of psychopathic seduction played out in my new novel, The Seducer, previewed on Bitlit on the link below:

http://www.neatorama.com/bitlit/category/the-seducer/

You can also watch a video preview of The Seducer on youtube, by cutting and pasting the following link:

http://www.youtube.com/user/ClaudiaMoscovici

Claudia Moscovici, psychopathyawareness

December 17, 2010
Categories: sociopath, psychopathy, sociopathy, psychopathy awareness, Dangerous Liaisons, psychopathic seduction, Robert Hare, psychopathyawareness, charismatic psychopaths, codependency, dangerous men, psychopathy symptoms, psychopathy traits, personality disorders, toxic relationships, narcissism, confusing relationships, psychology, Sam Vaknin, Malignant Self-Love, victim profile, victim, mental health . Tags: http://www.youtube.com/user/ClaudiaMoscovici . Author: psychopathyawareness

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Narcissism: Sam Vaknin--videos

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Tuesday, January 4, 2011

"Thrives through the holiday" by Ken Ludwig & Rev Cynthia James by "Making the free"

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Ken LudwigRev Cynthia JamesThe holiday season to resurface old wounds and bring pain, loneliness and depression.  Family meetings with people, dysfunctional linked or abusive relationships may cause our distress. Ludwig discusses James how you break free from these patterns can, you don't have to deliver your circumstances that cause pain. The listeners, you'll learn how to grow stronger during this holiday season by consciousness and make different choices. You control how you feel, think and act. Ludwig and James discuss how is displayed if you really unlike how everyone remembers you.

Cynthia James is one of the smartest and best loved international spiritual leaders, inspirational speakers, multimedia performers and prize winning authors who is admired and respected around the world to empower and transform the passion of life. Survivors of child abuse, Cynthia effective tools that have helped thousands of individuals, families and couples in transcend and healing of the wounds of abuse and trauma in their lives.  Cynthia is certified as post traumatic stress disorder mediator who has created and led innovative workshops focused on individual growth and enhanced awareness.   The book and the group. Workshop on-demand, both titled "what will set you Free" focuses on healing techniques for victims of abuse and trauma. Cynthia James co-hosts, with Dr. Jordan Paul, "Connections Radio" has also been featured in spirit media network. Visit Cynthia in www.whatwillsetyoufree.com.

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Monday, January 3, 2011

Verbal violence in relationships and what to do about the

Staying in relation to any type of abuse is the same as maintaining your pink in a pot of boiling water. You think just because this is your little finger will not destroy your hand? No. LATE. Abuse Burns-it hurts, and the only way you can "do more" is when you take your fingers out of the pot of ZeSEWS WATER. Just get from your abuser will be much more than "survive" is going to THROW and thrive! (I can promise you a day, because there was too much.)

Know YourselfVerbal violence in relationships and what to do about the
By Barbara Rose, Ph. d.

I decided to record from this chapter about the abuse, because most women feel "less than," more women who do not feel as a whole, be appropriated radiant, or very sure.

Are you? I'm going to describe the most common forms of abuse, and then assign to you to write how this might relate to your questions. The written will be largely help you see what you might not come to wholeness. The insults and the functions of another can undermine your more than knowledge.

Maybe they don't come to you now, but you have in the past. Maybe abuse inflicted on you every day, and you accept it because you think that's exactly how the imposer, maintaining the status quo out of a deep fear of being alone, without a partner, material comfort or convenience, do you get of the imposer. But abuse in all forms of your self-esteem and confidence into disrepute. Is the ultimate confidence for appearance, toxic for the wholeness and deadly poison.

Here are the signs of abuse. If they are about you, but one thing to know: this is your chance to spot the signs and learn how to arrive from the abuse.

Verbal, psychological and emotional abuse

Guides you step by step so you can see how all forms of abuse can only undermine the wholeness, radiance and Supreme confidence you really want to feel. It is my deepest hope that not only your embrace what I'm about to tell, but you will also find the courage to take personal responsibility for your well-being at all levels.

Verbal abuse

For example, suppose you have captured in a few pounds, or even 20 or 30, and your partner a snide comment: "put on some extra weight, Hon; It is better to gym. "I think comment verbal abuse. I feel sick. Feels humiliating. When a comment is pejorative, is humiliating. And this is verbal abuse.

Make no excuses for comments. What you love "eight" that get greyer, more toned, less wrinkled. The list could go on.

It is a question that you deserve to have someone in your life who loves and accepts you as you weight, gray hair, wrinkles and everyone.

Now, suppose that you say, "Boy, I really gain weight and your colleague responds," brilliant!, but we all do sometimes. I love you for who you are, not the number of scale. "This is an unconditional love partner.

See the difference? An entire book about the abuses could write, but I want to get to the point to observe is what abuse.

Verbal harassment consists of comments that lead to you feeling that "less than" caused to have that sinking feeling in your stomach, a sense of betrayal, pain, sadness, depression and sadness.

When you notice that your verbally abused – or otherwise – you, my dear sister, you have two options: (1) you can keep giving this to happen, giving you even less than I ever felt before. or (2) you can request the wrong person to stop completely. If he or she stopped, this is fantastic. If he or she does not stop, then you all your inner truth, all your true feelings about verbal abuse you receive each day, and walk through the life of that person.

If you have the wrong person to stop many times asked and nothing has changed, nothing will change. The wrong person won't stop just because you can ask again. People who understand the abuser and remain in the abusive situation seriously say should reconsider their statements. Will never misuse or to tolerate, nor even for a few minutes.

Verbal abuse comes in the form of snide remarks, put-downs, name-calling, humiliating comments, convincing requesting control of tons and harsh words.

If a woman who wants to feel increasingly shows full inside to your inner glow abroad, leave the abusive situation. There is no other way.

© Copyright by Barbara Rose, PhD-all rights reserved. Chapter excerpt reprinted with permission from the book know Yourself: a woman's Guide to "complete" Radiance & Supreme confidence. (Group Rose, January 2006) ISBN: 0974145734

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A Living Nightmare

I've seen with your eyes
beauty and understanding
a promise of dreams

I sighed in your smile
my enthusiastic senses
caught quickly in your web

Startled and confusion
This surprise which I grimaced
If you put your hand

Months turned into years
my life is no longer mine
a living nightmare

I'm still dreaming?
with you standing on me
a knife in your hand

One day you pay
And my revenge
But not in this life ...


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Sunday, January 2, 2011

Cluster b of what to expect after the dissolution-Partii

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In the first post we covered the need to go “no contact” or “limited contact” based upon whether the relationship involved marriage, long-term with investments, or an inter-personal relationship free of any such encumbrances. I shall begin with Marriage and long-term with investments.

I will have to cover much of this in generalities as divorce laws and joint investment laws vary from state to state. As an example, “no fault” divorce is simply a means by which to unclog the court system, thereby leaving fault as a non-issue. In other words, if “infidelity” were the issue for divorce, “no fault” states will not litigate “infidelity” and the judge will define and render a decision of  ”irreconcilable differences” instead. States that are NOT “no fault” WILL  litigate fault( i.e., “infidelity”) for months up to years in the court’s . Many times fault can go on longer than the division of property and investments. What’s worse, if you are dealing with a personality disordered mate, you can count on it getting nasty, especially where it concerns fault. Another reality in the dissolution process, women are still favored by most  judges. This of course is due in part to “female nurturing” being seen as integral to proper child-hood development.  Now, if the woman is the emotional, verbal, or physical abuser, the concern will be for the best interest of those children. YOUR personal concern, not the judges, unless concrete evidence is presented otherwise.  This is a sensitive area of debate and must be backed with solid evidence that her dysfunction could affect the overall well-being of your children. Covertly recording in home interactions (arguments) between you and/or interaction with the children. Emails are substantial, and are excellent forms of evidence widely accepted by the courts. Any arrest records, or legal actions that occurred during the relationship are important. Also any psychological treatments performed with full documentation.

Please do not misinterpret that I’m conveying a gender bias here in any way. What I am implying is the reality that the courts make egregious mistakes over and over by allowing the personality disordered woman to be a custodial parent when sufficient evidence is there and then not properly presented.  The man has to prove her dysfunctional condition and that this particular concern deserves consideration by the courts in support of the children’s future welfare. Same for women who are dealing with their male abuser, difference is though, a woman in such position will most likely be supported by the courts more readily. Judges look at issues of child abandonment, drug use, and  exposure of sexual activity to the children by the mother. A woman can count on the man getting the children if a judge rules one or more of these issues present.  Typically though,  it is less complicated for a woman to receive the status of being the custodial parent. In summary,  number one here is, the welfare of the children. Number two, these children do not deserve to be exposed to the likes of a personality disordered parent day in and day out. One last point that I personally feel strong about is whomever becomes the custodial parent, DO NOT convey hatred, discontent, or depreciate the x-spouse when communicating with the children. These children have a right to love both their parents. The custodial parent should mentor their children through their hard times with the dysfunctional parent. You are their only true salvation to a normal adult life, so lead by example.

In this day in time, women or men can be the “bread-winners” financially, yet, the courts still favor the women generally speaking. The two common areas of financial that can affect one for a lifetime are “alimony” and “pensions.” A personality disordered mate, despite gender, will milk these for everything it is worth to them. This is their ultimate opportunity for long-term  reparation, to push the emotional knife deeper. The best suggestions I can offer here is to research, talk to friends, and acquaintances about who is the best attorney you can find in “Family Law.” Everyone’s circumstances vary within a marriage or long-term relationship, not to mention,  laws vary from state to state. So it would behoove the abused to seek good counsel to protect themselves from financial demise. You may pay more up front for a better attorney, hence, preventing a lifetime of financial ruin.

Personal items create some of the most absurd and adversarial situations during divorce proceedings. Many times it takes court orders to retrieve some of the most ridiculous of personal items. For the abused, think long and hard about what is truly important and leave “principles” out of your mind. Don’t allow your X to engage or anger you about insignificant items. When separating, take what you know is rightfully yours, and if there are questions about anything else, attempt to negotiate. If they are not amenable to such negotiation, you have two choices. One, decide if it is something you can replace later and not worry about it. Two, if it has financial or sentimental value, let the court order these items be returned to you. If the courts award these items to your X instead, walk away and be done forever more.

Lastly, we delve into the emotional and post trauma of the dysfunctional relationship. If there were children involved, the abused must resolve to the fact that you will deal with one another until one or the other literally dies. Fact of life, accept it. As I mentioned earlier, the emotionally healthy parent, whether assigned as the custodial parent or not, must maintain emotional discipline and maturity. Practicing such discipline will always be an advantage in a few ways. First and foremost, it allows one to create a new and productive life, to understand the past and not make the same mistakes again, and have a more fulfilling future relationship. As well, if your x-abuser ended up being the custodial parent, I can assure you, their antics will continue. Record every possible public conversation (confer w/attorney on phone recordings), record your children’s conversations when they visit you, no openly, covertly. Emails once again, are solid forms of documentation in court. Always remain calm and mature, allowing your X to shoot themselves in the foot. This could offer an opportunity to get the children out of this dysfunctional environment.

For those of you that had long-term relationships, former engagements, etc., most of what I have written above still applies. Expect some craziness to continue, expect them to take claim to things that aren’t truly theirs, expect them to engage you via phone, emails, text, whatever! Don’t put any act of dysfunction past them, they are capable of most anything that will hurt you. Your present advantage is, you know what to expect, and you can always be a couple of steps ahead the game. Don’t forget too, never believe a damn thing they say!!  Lastly, remain “NO CONTACT” and stay emotionally disconnected,..believe me, you are much safer this way.

I will do a  Part III specifically on the personal side of emotions post relationship and what not to do when going back into the dating world.

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Why help therapy can be downloaded by means of a relationship with a woman abuse even if this is the "Crazy"


There is a new article on http://www.shrink4men.com/from Guest contributor, Kev. This article describes why therapies often is an important step in restoring illicit relationships, especially if you're not crazy. In this article writes Kev on how therapy helped her heal from an extremely toxic relationship with exceedingly abuse women.

Here's the link:

This is the crazy One because I need Therapy?!: recovering from a relationship with a woman abuse

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